Systems Leadership Transforms Churches


So many churches are looking for "heroic" leaders who will ride in on a white horse and solve all their problems without tension, anxiety or conflict. Unfortunately those leaders don't exist. And when churches find out that you are not, one of two things will happen: You will try harder and harder to be that kind of leader (and burnout in the process), or, the church will decide to look for their next heroic leader. And the cycle continues...

If you want to break the cycle, leading your church as a system will greatly benefit your leadership. You will learn that you are part of the system, but not in control of the system. You will learn to deal with underlying problems effectively, and change unhealthy and unrealistic expectations by addressing mental models. Both you and your church can flourish, not flounder.


Hi! I'm Dr. John Messer


I am the founder of systemsCHURCH. Notice the emphasis is on the Church. Many ministry leaders today are exhausted and on the verge of burnout. I want to help them be healthy and whole in their church leadership role.

My life changed when I went through a debilitating season of burnout as a new pastor. I discovered that my understanding of how churches work was wrong. And I found out that my way approach to leadership was actually undermining my goal of building a healthy, flourishing congregation.

Systems thinking coaching for church leaders has two goals. First, I want you to understand what is really happening in your church. Second, I want to equip and empower you to bring positive change through healthy systems leadership.

As a leadership coach and church consultant, I’ve helped hundreds of leaders and churches become healthier and more fruitful by adopting a systems approach. Applying a systems approach helped stifled leaders and stuck churches break out of their constricting conditions to live into the freedom that Christ intends for his church and his people.

I’ve been in numerous leadership positions for 40 years. Following a career as an Army strategic intelligence officer, I’ve been in pastoral ministry for 30 years. and a Doctorate in Strategic Leadership focused on leading the church as a system. 

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