See the forest AND the trees


Gain a new perspective on your church

You will be empowered to see what’s really happening in your church, how to solve fundamental problems, how to eliminate the need to find bad guys (culprits), and how to implement powerful systemic interventions which increase the health and effectiveness of your church.


Understand Your Church


Churches are not like toasters

They are social systems: unique, interdependent and complex

The most powerful thing you can do to help your church is to understand it and lead it as a system.

Systems thinking empowers you to understand and engage your church in new, more powerful and freeing ways.


Stop Playing Whack-a-mole


Enriching your church through systems thinking enables you to stop dealing with the same problems over and over again. You'll discover how to solve root problems, not just symptoms.

Take the Balcony View


Enriching your church will help you see the whole system of your church; how all the pieces interact. The new perspective enables you to engage new ways of leading and ministering. Plus, you can stop looking for bad guys and culprits!

Don't Feel Like You Are Drowning


Putting the church in a new perspective will help you feel like you are on dry ground again. You can be effective and healthy in ministry! You can see the best of the church, and be part of the body, doing what it is created to do.

Example Curriculum

  Introduction
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  Lesson 1: System Basics
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  Lesson 2: Systems thinking
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  Lesson 3: Systems thinking tools
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  Lesson 4: Introduction to social systems
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  Lesson 5: Understanding mental models
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  Lesson 6: Healthy Change in Church Systems
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Pre-Sale Pricing for July Only! $199

Full Price: $299

7 Additional weeks of content will be delivered weekly starting July 16, 2021


Are you ready to think about the church in a new way?



This course is the result of twenty years of recovery and learning after my first church experience. I learned that I was thinking about the church all wrong--it isn't a toaster. I can't just find the "broken" part and replace it, expecting that it will be fixed. Learning to see and engage the church as a social system changed me in some important ways: I felt more effective as a leader. I felt free as a minister. I learned to love the church all over again. I think that's what Jesus wants for us. That's why I created this course.